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Why it's best to make friends with a woman before having casual sex  

IVFalternative 53M
244 posts
9/8/2019 2:28 am
Why it's best to make friends with a woman before having casual sex

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IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/8/2019 2:31 am

Patience, self control and thinking: give them a go!

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positively4you 74F  
4605 posts
9/8/2019 3:28 am

Heathen will be here soon to negate what you just said.
But, you are right. Most women do prefer and respond to the friend thing first.


IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/8/2019 3:43 am

    Quoting positively4you:
    Heathen will be here soon to negate what you just said.
    But, you are right. Most women do prefer and respond to the friend thing first.
I can only hope my advice doesn't give him hemorrhoids

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IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/8/2019 3:45 am

A young bull and an old bull were looking at a herd of cows. The young bull said to the old bull "I'm going to run down there and fuck one of those cows" to which the old bull replied "I'm going to walk down there and fuck all of them".

I do most of my picking up in face to face social environments, so this advice is not that relevant to hooking up online. Nevertheless here goes:

Women often have friends with similar taste in men. When you meet women in a group, if one of them is open to having sex with you several of the others would be as well. However they will usually hold back for the sake of their friend and keeping up appearances.

If you rush in to fuck the first one who shows interest you will probably only get one of that group of friends. However if you tell them you're only looking to make friends right now, there is no longer a social obstacle preventing the others from giving you their number. Sometimes they'll actually get your number from each other and start contacting you out of the blue. Just for the purpose of friendship of course Bwahahaha!

Then, in your own time, let them out of the friend zone one by one (Or more than one if they are up for it). If you fuck three of them very often the rest of the group will follow suit.

In summary: stop being an impatient dumbass and you can make life a lot easier on yourself.

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TicklePlease 56F  
13851 posts
9/8/2019 3:59 am

My friend's preferences are pretty different than mine but regardless... we'd pretty much all NOT hookup with someone rather than let the possibility of dick drama come between us! Guess it's the gal version of bros-before-hoes.... chicks-before-dick!

Guys have friend zones? hahahahahahahahhahaahah stop that, I almost snarfed my coffee and fucked up my laptop screen!


IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/8/2019 4:07 am

    Quoting TicklePlease:
    My friend's preferences are pretty different than mine but regardless... we'd pretty much all NOT hookup with someone rather than let the possibility of dick drama come between us! Guess it's the gal version of bros-before-hoes.... chicks-before-dick!

    Guys have friend zones? hahahahahahahahhahaahah stop that, I almost snarfed my coffee and fucked up my laptop screen!
Guys are more flexible with our friendzone.

Regarding whether or not a group of female friends will fuck the same guy: asking women vs observing their behaviour yields very different answers.

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Dover4funn 61M
37 posts
9/8/2019 6:24 am

The problem is that if you befriend a woman in order to have sex with her and or her friends, you now risk them wanting to be more than friends and the ensuing emotional entanglements. If you also have been with a few women in the same friend pool, that can get really messy, especially when they start to find out what each other have been up to.


IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/8/2019 6:34 am

    Quoting Dover4funn:
    The problem is that if you befriend a woman in order to have sex with her and or her friends, you now risk them wanting to be more than friends and the ensuing emotional entanglements. If you also have been with a few women in the same friend pool, that can get really messy, especially when they start to find out what each other have been up to.
If you fuck one she might want a relationship.

If you fuck two of them they think you're an awful slut.

If you fuck three of them they think you're an awesome slut.

Three is the magic number that draws the rest in.

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IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/8/2019 6:40 am

    Quoting  :

Regarding whether or not a group of female friends will fuck the same guy: asking women vs observing their behaviour yields very different answers.

That said I'm not saying this is a universal rule that applies to all women. Maybe you're different, or maybe your group of friends just hasn't met the right manslut.

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IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/8/2019 6:58 am

    Quoting  :

There sure are. People want all sorts of different things. Any individual wants different things at different times too.

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seems6666 53F  
4838 posts
9/8/2019 7:20 am

I'm not sure this makes sense,,, women talk,, if you became one of "the circle" as friends,,, then fucked one of them,,A) your technique would be discussed verbatim and and the others would automatically back off, possibly because you were crap in bed or because you are "seeing" one of the "circle"


IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/8/2019 7:59 am

    Quoting seems6666:
    I'm not sure this makes sense,,, women talk,, if you became one of "the circle" as friends,,, then fucked one of them,,A) your technique would be discussed verbatim and and the others would automatically back off, possibly because you were crap in bed or because you are "seeing" one of the "circle"
A man with experience is never at the mercy of a woman with a theory.

Women at my local pub high 5 me for being a slut, much to the amazement of other guys. I'm not your average guy. In addition to a reputation for being a manslut I also have a reputation for:

Being upfront and honest about my lifestyle.
Taking inebriated women home safely.
Resolving potentially violent confrontations peacefully.
And a whole bunch of other stuff tbat keeps me in good standing with locals.

Due to being upfront about my lifestyle women will often be discreet about having sex with me.
Due to being in the habit of taking women home safely, if women leave the pub with me they still have plausible deniability.

Your objections are based on your experience but I am outside your experience.

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pocogato12 71F  
37235 posts
9/8/2019 2:14 pm

I am very sure my pool of friends has totally different tastes in the men pool LOL BUT we do have some common dislikes and if a guy falls into one of us and there is a dislike- that gets shared and he no longer will have access to the pool. An ounce of prevention: dont go girl hunting if there are several of them out together.

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IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/8/2019 4:56 pm

    Quoting pocogato12:
    I am very sure my pool of friends has totally different tastes in the men pool LOL BUT we do have some common dislikes and if a guy falls into one of us and there is a dislike- that gets shared and he no longer will have access to the pool. An ounce of prevention: dont go girl hunting if there are several of them out together.
Usually the way it goes is they hand me their number or ask me for mine. In the last 5 years or so since my divorce I've only asked for women's phone number at the pub twice. Whatever the reason, women seem to find me very approachable.

I don't put my hands on any woman unless she touches me first.
I really am quite happy to just be friends.
I tell women I am a slut and that I'm probably not what they're looking for.
I tell them I do not want a pub full of angry women.
If a woman propositions me when she is drunk I make her wait until she is sober.

Recently I started going to a new pub. This weekend was my fourth week going there. A group of teenagers were in the parking lot playing basketball and rough housing. One of them was carrying an iron bar which was scaring people. The security and management were watching them from across the lot. When the guy with the bar put it on the ground, I walked over, picked it up and handed it to security. Shortly afterwards a woman handed me her number on a slip of paper.

Really, how am I meant to prevent that? Refuse to take her number?

The truth is it is very unlikely that most guys could read this blog and duplicate what I do They'd have to unlearn a heap of attitudes and habits first.

Following this advice may lead to insanity!

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Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
9/9/2019 1:36 am

You boys in Australia are turning feminized.

"Why it's best to make friends with a woman before having casual sex"..... This is not best.

Better : Why it's best to have sex with a woman , instead of approaching her on a platonic level :

Because you want her riding and sweating all over your dick.

When you find a woman attractive , you need to make that vibe known to her. You want her to know you want her hands down your pants, and your hands feeling her up.

Women instantly get a gay vibe from a man when he approaches them with platonic intent. She loses interest [in you] if she had any at all.

If she's attracted to you , and you approach her as if you're gay?
1. She's instantly disappointed and sets out looking for other men, and gets sex from them [not you].. and if she gets serious with any of them, she drops you, or only sees you when she has a question about the man banging her.
or...
2. If she's not disappointed in you coming off as just a friend. She's placed you in her "Friendzone". You're officially gay now, as far as she is concerned. [And that's why women give you her phone number. You're not getting any tail.. you're just in her friendzone.]

Also...You never approach a group of women. Some of them you really wouldn't want to see naked. Attractive women always have those fat or ugly, or combination thereof; fugly girlfriends, who can't get laid, and that table of women try to push you into taking the fugly one..
Then she also has cockblocker girlfriends who are maybe lesbian or just hate men [for some reason].
You choose one, and you wait for her to separate herself from the heard . Then you make your move, making sure she knows you're sexually interested.

If you go introduce yourself to a table of women , as man looking for friends? Now you have the whole table of women thinking you're a homosexual. These girls are not fingering themselves wanting your dick, which may have been up some gay guys pooper.

Every man wants sex, [straight or gay]... women know that about men! Women expect that he wants sex with her. Problem is, men don't know how to get sex, as you just demonstrated.

Should you ask for sex? Don't do that. - Tell her in so many words you want sex.
Should you play gentleman for sex? Don't do that. ...If she's into you, she wants you already.

You want sex? ... You find those women , and tell that woman , you choose, you want sex with her. Really very simple. You don't need to pretend you're gay and want to be her friend......then later you're asking her , "I have a boner, can we have sex"... hell no. She is not interested. You've been her friend, giving her attention and listening to her, .....what's her incentive to give that up for your dick in her?

Isn't any incentive. She knows another guy who will flip her over and rail the hell out of her pussy. She has you as her gay friend, being there for her.

Yes, women have friends with similar taste in men. And if a man [bf/husband/date] makes her toes curl.... her girlfriends know about it... and so do her friendzoned males. .... But if a man, you, comes along and wants to do "Friends platonic" stuff with her, go shopping with her.... her friends hear about that, too. They're not wetting themselves over you.

Sure , women give you her number, because you project this , gay facade of being her friend, but that only means she wants you in her friendzone to give her attention.

A naive bull and an experienced bull were looking at a herd of cows. The naive bull said to the experienced bull "I'm going to run down there and tell those cows I want to be their friend" , to which the experienced bull replied "I'm going to walk down there and fuck the hottest cow".

You need to unlearn all your mommies feminist Redbook and Cosmopolitan lessons she tried out on you.


IVFalternative replies on 9/9/2019 1:42 am:
Too long, didn't read

Try to make your comments shorter than the blog in future.

Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
9/9/2019 1:38 am

    Quoting positively4you:
    Heathen will be here soon to negate what you just said.
    But, you are right. Most women do prefer and respond to the friend thing first.
Sure, because he's wrong. Women do respond and sometimes prefer the friend thing.... but he doesn't get pussy that way.


IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/9/2019 1:45 am

    Quoting Heathen_G:
    Sure, because he's wrong. Women do respond and sometimes prefer the friend thing.... but he doesn't get pussy that way.
I can explain it to you but I can't understand it for you.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

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Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
9/9/2019 9:10 am

IVFalternative replies on 9/9/2019 1:42 am:
Too long, didn't read


I know you can't read that much without falling into a delirium .... but others can. The conclusion is; you're wrong, and so was your mom.


IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/9/2019 12:01 pm

    Quoting Heathen_G:
    IVFalternative replies on 9/9/2019 1:42 am:
    Too long, didn't read


    I know you can't read that much without falling into a delirium .... but others can. The conclusion is; you're wrong, and so was your mom.
Woohoo a your mom joke! The height of intellectual superiority!

I'm not proposing a theory, I'm describing the results of my experiments. People who know me see yet another woman approach me and ask each other "How on earth does he do it?" so it's no surprise that people over the internet might find it difficult to believe but people in my local area see this happen in front of their eyes.

There is no need for me to read your comment. I know I'm right and you think I'm wrong. Not necessary to argue about if.

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Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
9/9/2019 4:29 pm

    Quoting IVFalternative:
    Woohoo a your mom joke! The height of intellectual superiority!

    I'm not proposing a theory, I'm describing the results of my experiments. People who know me see yet another woman approach me and ask each other "How on earth does he do it?" so it's no surprise that people over the internet might find it difficult to believe but people in my local area see this happen in front of their eyes.

    There is no need for me to read your comment. I know I'm right and you think I'm wrong. Not necessary to argue about if.
I'm not denying women approach you , I have no doubt they do... but if you had the stamina to read a few short paragraphs you would understand the women approach you to place you in her "Friendzone"..... you're not getting any tail. You set your standard as being "One of the girls" in the pub.

You taking advice from your mom was a mistake. Your mom doesn't want you to get as much tail as possible, ... she wants you to behave opposite the ass hole [or plural] who knocked her up. Ivy she wants you to be a good boy.


IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/9/2019 4:44 pm

    Quoting Heathen_G:
    I'm not denying women approach you , I have no doubt they do... but if you had the stamina to read a few short paragraphs you would understand the women approach you to place you in her "Friendzone"..... you're not getting any tail. You set your standard as being "One of the girls" in the pub.

    You taking advice from your mom was a mistake. Your mom doesn't want you to get as much tail as possible, ... she wants you to behave opposite the ass hole [or plural] who knocked her up. Ivy she wants you to be a good boy.
Not getting any? 😄😂🤣

Keep telling yourself that buddy! 👍

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Heathen_G 65M
7974 posts
9/9/2019 6:41 pm

    Quoting IVFalternative:
    Not getting any? 😄😂🤣

    Keep telling yourself that buddy! 👍
Yes.. you're not getting any tail. You're telling women, "I want to be your friend". That means you're telling them you're not interested in sex. So the woman looks for other men , while she friendzones you.

A naive bull and an experienced bull were looking at a herd of cows. The naive bull said to the experienced bull "I'm going to run down there and tell those cows I want to be their friend" , to which the experienced bull replied "I'm going to walk down there and fuck the hottest cow".


IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/10/2019 1:45 am

    Quoting Heathen_G:
    Yes.. you're not getting any tail. You're telling women, "I want to be your friend". That means you're telling them you're not interested in sex. So the woman looks for other men , while she friendzones you.

    A naive bull and an experienced bull were looking at a herd of cows. The naive bull said to the experienced bull "I'm going to run down there and tell those cows I want to be their friend" , to which the experienced bull replied "I'm going to walk down there and fuck the hottest cow".
I don't tell them "I want to be your friend", I say "I'm only looking for friends right now". They are friendzoned by me, not the other way around. This is a significant difference. It means the ones who don't want to fuck me relax instead of being constantly ready to fend of advances. The ones who do want to fuck me attempt to break out of my friendzone, just like many guys do with women who friendzone them.

At your age you shouldn't need such a basic concept explained to you.

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IVFalternative 53M
630 posts
9/10/2019 12:45 pm

    Quoting  :

Women say they don't do that. Men say they don't do that. Yet when people cheat it is very often with their partners best friend.

In a situation where their is no existing relationship with ONE of those friends if a guy can be with enough of the group before they realize and has been completely upfront about his lifestyle then the dynamic changes.

The first time it happened to me it took me by surprise. I thought that having been warned about my lifestyle they would steer clear of me, but they kept on asking me and I don't like to reject people so I kept saying yes.

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