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Jessica's Law ... Texas Style
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Jessica's Law ... Texas Style Texas LT Governor David Dewhurst is pushing for passage of a Jessica's law in 2007. The law is named after a Florida girl, Jessica Lunsford that was kidnapped, and murdered by a convicted sex offender. Other states have passed similar laws ... but Texas will have the harshest. On a first offense, a predator will face a mandatory sentence of 25 years to life, followed by GPS monitoring after he gets out. For the second offense ... the death penalty (It wouldn't be Texas if the death penalty wasn't in it). At first I was pleased and thought, about time. On further reflection, and after hearing opposing arguments ... I'm not so sure. Of course there are the protests from the anti-death penalty crowd ... these I ignored (they would oppose the death penalty for Hitler). But two arguments grabbed my attention. Most molestations are committed by a family member. These molesters are usually turned in by a relative. Would having the death penalty stop someone from turning in a family member? Why would someone who has already been caught once for molestation, let his next victim go after the . He knows that if he is caught this time he will be executed, so why would he leave a witness ... It is in his best interest to murder the victim. I am torn. While I want to mete out the harshest possible penalties for these scum, I want to protect the too. I'm still leaning in favor of this legislation, but I am definitely swayable. What are your opinions?  |
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since, no surprise, i'm against the death penalty, if i remove that from teh equation, i think mandatory long term sentencing for any pedophile is an absolute requirement. and monitoring - again yes. after a second offense - life without parole. an aside - i have a good friend who was abused by her father to the extent that at the age of 7 she had to have a colostomy. her parents are still together. familial reporting is very low. for me, it is even more onerous to think of a family member destroying their own child - my friend is more understanding than i am and has forgiven her mother. pfffffffffft. never. You cannot conceive the many without the one.
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Who needs the legal death penalty in these type matters? Send them to prison the second time with a guarantee that they will be in general population, and let the other prisoners take care of things. It's a proven fact that inmates do not like nor tolerate people that prey on children. Sometimes prison justice seems so much more to the point. Have tongue, will use it. Repeatedly.
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12/7/2006 2:29 pm |
THAT is a toughy for me....I am so against anything that inflicts any harm to a child and anyone who does so should be fried immediately! But, you make two very good points that makes me think about that!!! Why did you do that???  Hmmmm  I will have to think on that one for a bit! Seriously think! xx FREETIME648 xx
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12/7/2006 3:59 pm |
hmm, touchy subject for me thisbecause this affects both my daughter and I for real but will answer you as best I can. I agree with jerseygem70 on this subject. I rather the accused feel pain than go easy with the death sentence. Love you Bev {=}
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I like the whole GPS deal though. Although, even with GPS how would the athorities know what they were doing? I am not afraid to say fry the bastard on this one. I know Professionally, pedophiles are never cured! They repeat over and over because its about control for them not sex. I worked a sex offender center for a year. I hated every minute of it. It was part of my education so it had to be done.
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12/7/2006 6:20 pm |
Check your home page please {=}
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12/7/2006 7:54 pm |
OMG P, I know what You think and feel about this issue...this year a child molester was let out which I think is so wrong...within days he and murdered the child...the arguments presented is valid and it does make me wonder now... I just want these evil monsters locked and kept away...I hope and pray that the relatives inspite of knowing the punishment will still hand over the perpetrators...their conscience will guide them so not another innocent child or woman will be harmed or killed. Hugs, flo
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You raise some very difficult questions, my friend. It is true that many pedophiles offend against their own children. What is even more amazing is that some of these families want to "reconcile" with the offender after he is released from prison (I don't understand any woman who would want to get back together with her husband after he had sexually abused their child, but apparently it happens all the time). I used to work in a probation department and the sex offender unit had to design a 'chaperone' program so that volunteeers (usually another relative like an aunt or uncle) could be trained to provide supervision during the offender's visits to the family. Anyway, I digress from your question. I think it is impossible to know what punishment will or will not serve as a deterrent for offenders, therefore take deterrence out of the equation. We are left with two other goals, punishment and incapacitating the offender, both of which are served by life in prison after the second offense.   
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Oh and one last thing...I hope that everyone is willing to pay the increased taxes that will be the inevitable result of the trend toward putting people away for longer and longer periods of time.
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I don't focus on after-the-fact legislation as much as I try to find proactive things. For example (and yeah, I know it's a completely different thing) if we're going to talk about laws inspired by real life tragedy - I'm more interested in things like the Amber Alert system - where all states, all agencies, etc work together, often through the web, interstate bulletins, etc. when a child abduction is reported. More data about its effectiveness can be found on codeamber dot org. Oh but back to the point - death penalty for second offense? Nah. Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]
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theoretically, yes but then, i'd have already killed the mofo so the issue is rhetorical You cannot conceive the many without the one.
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As a victim of this, I have to say that I feel death would be too quick for them and unfair on the victim. We have to live with this for a lifetime and so should they. Hard labour on an island somewhere for the rest of their natural lives should just about cover it. The death sentence means we have no real recourse, they get put out of their misery, while we have to live with it. Bye everyone, it was a blast
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Okay, first of all, regarding the death sentence in general - I'm a bit squeamish about it but not 100% against it. It comes from the usual concerns - mostly centered on the highly irreversible aspect of it. So there's always that "but what if he/she DIDN'T do it? The instances of wrongly convicted citizens being finally vindicated after decades are few and far between but they make an impact on my thinking, nonetheless. So that's part of my "nah." But the biggest part is an extension of what I said about after-the-fact punishments. When I ask myself your question - will the possibility of putting a repeat child molester to death after a second offense either prevent a third child from being molested or deter the molestation in the first place - my gut feeling is that it will NOT, in either case. The compulsion to molest children does not seem to be driven by rational thought but by irrational impulse, so the deterrent factor won't exist. And I think your question about whether this would further prevent a family member from indentifying a molester is a HUGELY relevant point. Plus, not only does the molestee have to deal with fallout from the abuse, but now she/he has to deal with guilt over being "responsible" for the death of a family member. Just way too strange - almost surreal, from this perspective. Plus I think (and apologies for the unavoidable pun) it's overkill. Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]
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Plus, I'm not a revenge driven person. No matter how much the perpetrator is punished, it doesn't really help the victim. And THAT'S where I focus. Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]
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I've read what everyone has written and want to reaffirm the paradox of how families are torn between stopping a family molester and wanting to maintain the attachment. No, it doesn't make sense to those of us who have never had to deal with it, but it happens all the time. I know at least three families in this very tiny town who are struggling with uous molestations. I don't get it but I can't deny it. Yeah, I'm still [blog 1hotwahine]
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12/9/2006 12:35 am |
I told you earlier that this is a very touchy subject for me and the choice is very limited to the punishment for these people who commit these crimes. I personally do agree with torture but like another blogger says, "no matter how much pain you inflict on the accused it doesn't take away the damage it does to the victim mentally even tho the physical pain becomes a memory" I have been mulling over this since you posted about it. When I think I have found a reasonable soloution, I will get back to you on it Take care handsome{=} btw, I don't let what happen to me effect my judgement of how I treat other men. Not everyone is the same You knew that already
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12/9/2006 12:41 am |
pchamp012004 says: the family members get to spend 5 minutes in a locked room with the molestor? Most victims will be afraid to face molesters because of it but I wouldn't mind if my brother was with them, he would rip their ..... you know what off but I know all about that from experience and the memory of the consequences of that action hasn't worked well for me
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how about 6 woemn from the victims family with a needle each to just keep piercing him until he eventually bleeds to death, that should about cover it. Or, perhaps, tweezers to take every hair out of his head and pubic area one by one. Never ask a victims opinion on these things, it won't be nice  Bye everyone, it was a blast
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pchamp012004 says: the family members get to spend 5 minutes in a locked room with the molestor? Most victims will be afraid to face molesters because of it but I wouldn't mind if my brother was with them, he would rip their ..... you know what off but I know all about that from experience and the memory of the consequences of that action hasn't worked well for me I know because I have actually stood in court against my accuser as did his other 13 victims. We were all empowered by it. Bye everyone, it was a blast
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12/9/2006 3:30 pm |
pchamp012004 replies on 12/9/2006 8:24 pm: I wrote that quote as a man whose daughter was molested ... I'm sorry about what happened to your daughter. You right, I do feel uncomfortable around men in general because I feel sometimes it is my fault for the experiences I have had and thats not one man but a few times it has happened and not just to me but my daughter as well when she was but 2 yrs of age. I have dealt with it my way and still deal with it every time I look at my daughter's beautiful face and wonder if it will continue when she comes of age to choose to go out with boys. I worry that she will be abused by men for a past she didn't ask for. I worry because in my experience, men who have been involved in my life, after they find out about my experiences use it as a levy against me as reason to call me names as well as abuse me more Some women do it too if they have a jealous streak about them and want to hurt me, they tend to say offensive things to me or about me. I have taken it in my stride but sometimes it can get too much then I go into hiding because of it. Normally I would be an outspoken and outgoing person but with events taking precedence in my life I take a back step. Spending time with the molester would just bring out more anger in me as has this post now. Sorry for talking to much Take care {=}
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12/9/2006 4:35 pm |
Maybe those scumbags need counceling to rehabilitate them My method of action doesn't always conform to what society expects
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12/15/2006 8:32 am |
pchamp012004 replies on 12/9/2006 8:24 pm: I wrote that quote as a man whose daughter was molested ... I'm sorry about what happened to your daughter. You right, I do feel uncomfortable around men in general because I feel sometimes it is my fault for the experiences I have had and thats not one man but a few times it has happened and not just to me but my daughter as well when she was but 2 yrs of age. I have dealt with it my way and still deal with it every time I look at my daughter's beautiful face and wonder if it will continue when she comes of age to choose to go out with boys. I worry that she will be abused by men for a past she didn't ask for. I worry because in my experience, men who have been involved in my life, after they find out about my experiences use it as a levy against me as reason to call me names as well as abuse me more Some women do it too if they have a jealous streak about them and want to hurt me, they tend to say offensive things to me or about me. I have taken it in my stride but sometimes it can get too much then I go into hiding because of it. Normally I would be an outspoken and outgoing person but with events taking precedence in my life I take a back step. Spending time with the molester would just bring out more anger in me as has this post now. Sorry for talking to much Take care {=}
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12/27/2006 6:10 pm |
There is no rehabilitation for pedophilia and chemical or physical castration only limits the ability to use a penis in acts of sex with children. Since there is no way to rehabilitate them and they have proven to be repeat offenders, even after the first incarceration - there is nothing we can do with them or for them. Remove them from the gene pool. Death Penalty, first offense. Anyone covering or hiding these crimes against children - charged as accessory and given jail time, counseling and probation afterwards. No excuses. No exceptions. No apologies. It is neither kind nor constructive to continue believing this fairytale that there is some kind of redemption for this sickness when there isn't.78
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Torture it is then 
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